Blogging at Some contents or functionalities here are not available due to your cookie preferences! This happens because the functionality/content marked as “Google Youtube” uses cookies that you choosed to keep disabled. TechnoPillz Ep. 62 'FCPX-AutoDuck' TechnoPillz. #fcpx, #finalcutpro, #finalcutprox. 0 Comments Sign in to leave a message. This episode has no messages yet. Be the first to write a message! Hello all, I am trying to lock down an AVID to FCPX workflow. I haven't used AVID regularly for over 10 years and I was never an expert user. However, I occasionally have to transfer edits from AVID to FCPX and I get it done fairly easily but I have to involve Resolve and various other tools such as FCP7 (with autoduck plugins) and 7toX - now called CCtoX.
This week I took an afternoon and visited Adobe’s CS4 Roadshow stop in Dallas. I thought I’d get a chance to get my hands on CS4 and see how Premiere compares to FCP. I’ve wrote about it before, non-profits can pick up the master collection for just under $1,000. This is a great deal! But I’m used to Final Cut Studio. But do I like it enough to justify the extra $600 to $1200 to keep both Final Cut Studio and Adobe’s Master Collection on my machine.
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Final cut pro 10.4 tutorial pdf All new features of FCPX 10.4 Tips from professional editors FCPX 10.4 Free FCPX 10.4 Tutorials and Paid Training Final Cut Pro X are now up to 10.4. When the jump to 10.3 brought some more radical changes to the app (such as roles), this update focuses on 360 videos and new color classification features.
Just so you know the Adobe apps I use every week are: Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, After Effects and Dreamweaver (but I’m using Dreamweaver less now that we redesigned our church website to use WordPress as a Content Management System. Needless to say by the time I buy the software I need it’s pretty close to the price of the Master Collection.
The Roadshow was held at StudioMovie Grill and it makes for a great venue for this kind of event. And then at the end I’ll wrap it up with few thoughts.
-On location looks sweet. Meta data can be great but have to take the time to enter the info.
-Premiere. Playing back 4k looks great. It’s half res.
-AVCHD falls apart. Don’t know if this is footage from the new Pannasonic HM-150 or a consumer level cam. They guys just talked about both. Don’t know of it’s the RT or the codex. 150 is supposed to play great with FCP. This guy is also on a HP windows machine.
-Premiere doesn’t auto sense & correct mismatch format to timeline.
-Mix and match format ok. AVCHD playback is process heavy.
-Claims premiere pro was used with Superman Returns.
-HVX200 looks soft compared to ex1 and red.
-Premier After Effects dynamic link is sweet. Just showed a clip being replaced with AE comp. Can you send sequence or multiple clips?
– Premiere can import AE and soon Avid. Is this Autoduck? Or is it going to kill auto duck?
– Speach to text demo. Footage is of a person with headset mic. Worked flawless. Very cool for dialogue editting. Interesting to see real world examples.
-Example video for presidental debate. Video recording is overmodulated and you can search for any word. Great for finding sound bites etc…
-You can create web pages that tie into the video and meta data. Should be out in a month or so.
-Specialized dictionaries for various specialize fields.
-Blend modes in Premiere is a new feature?
-Content aware scallong in Photoshop is nuts!!! Great for cropping /scallong for slide shows.
-NVidia card sowing off zooming around a 442 MB photo.
-Blob paint tool in Illustrator rocks.
-About to show a PC importing FCP project. Won’t bring in livetype or motion files. Title, basic motion annomation, psd files, transition. Working on export and Avid i/o.
-Media encoder. Lots of presets, YouTube, HDTV, iPod, AppleTV. MPEG2 quicker encode, good quality, larger file size that H264 for short BlueRay projects. Hmmm test BlueRay MPEG2 vs. BlueRay MPEG4 for ProPresenter playback.
-Nvidia has a crazy export plugin that can export using all the cores on the card. Results is 2-4x realtime for “their” settings.
-Encore. BlueRay. Author to flash is crazy sweet. What’s your server requirements on the back end?
-Soubdbooth: Now multitrack. Designed for someone who doesn’t do audio fulltime. Tasks geared to automate processes like volunt correction, remove a sound, create a loop, clean up audio, change pitch or time.
-Drawing on spectrograph to remove sounds is crazy!
-After Effects! AE can import Premiere Pro sequence. Big push on we want to play with everyone. Not that we are better than FCP or Avid but that we play well with everyone.
-Comp navigator nice. Especially for going back to old projects of handing off to someone else.
-Sequence search finds any parameter on any layer.
-Check out after effects cookbook.
-Walking through Mocha. Plannar tracker. Not covering adjust track. Talking about comping but not talking about gray scale matching with levels and grain. Bad comp, track is slipping and colors/ grain not mathching. Boo!
-AE stuff too basic heading out. Big feature is Mocha and I already have the full blown Mocha.
Overall CS4 biggest improvements in my book are:
-Photoshop Smart Scale
-Soundbooth Multitrack, tasks for common actions and editing a sound wave visually
-Encore always looked great for authoring to multiple formats and even Flash. But I haven’t had a need yet. All my DVD projects have been SD and simple.
-Dynamic Link is the bomb! No longer do you have to render out versions of your project for different applications. Master/ Project files are embedded in each application. Less chance of using wrong version of loosing a file. Render once. You don’t have to render out of AE at animation only to embed in your Premiere Project and render out of your NLE again. You can RAM preview to check everything and then render at the very end.
-None of the conversation was addressed at why they are better or you should switch from Final Cut Pro or Avid. They just talked about their workflows with both. How they can import FCP project files on the mac and PC and will soon be able to import and export for Avid and export for FCP. I don’t know if that means they conceede the NLE war or just want you to ease in and try Premiere and hopefully like it.
Production Suite vs. Final Cut Studio
Productions Suite:
+ Dynamic Link
+ After Effects: Mocha addition is very nice
+ Soundbooth Tasks and Visual Tools
+ Encore publish to Flash, DVD, Blue-Ray etc…
+ Photoshop
+ On Location (mac now)
Final Cut Studio:
+ Final Cut Pro: Great NLE that I know well and work fast in.
+ Color: A great grading tool and easier than AE for grading tasks
+ Soundtrack is great for scoring sound FX and included library is good. They didn’t show that side of Soundbooth
If I could only have one, FCP or Production Premium I’d choose Production Premium hands down. But I also need After Effects, Photoshop, Illustrator and I’ll pay my dues to get used to Premiere Pro. The other tools included are well worth it. The bang for the buck is just too good. If I have the budget will I keep both? For now I am but we’ll see how Apple responds. I’m not rushing out to buy CS4. Our budget has been tightened and I don’t see the killer feature that I need right now. I already have Mocha and I have Automatic Duck to get from FCP to AE easily.
| Software Review |
New Automatic Duck Quacks the NLE Transfer Barrier
By Loren Miller
Automatic Duck Pro Import FCP
Automatic Duck Pro Export
by Automatic Duck
System Requirements
OS 10.2.6 or later
Final Cut Pro 4.1
Price: $495
educational pricing available
Upgrade pricing available
In development for several months, designed to leverage the industry standard Open Media Framework architecture with FCP's and Avid's new XML metadata support, Automatic Duck's Pro Import/Pro Export plugins for Final Cut Pro have arrived, and they prove to be a quackerjack duo in getting FCP's and Avids to talk to each other.
Quack this mystery: can you tell which timeline came first?
Typical Avid timeline.
Typical FCP timeline-- same show.
What 'The Duck' can do for those users transferring Avid offline sequences to FCP for finishing -- or just to continue editing-- is very impressive indeed, and what Duck can do for users transferring an offline from FCP to Avid for onlining is also convenient, although not yet as transparent as Avid offline to Avid online. The savings in time, however, are significant and if you expect to do more than a few sequence transfers a year, purchasing one or both Pro plugins will pay off handsomely. Going either direction, your best option is to recapture the underlying media in your chosen native NLE codec, which completes the process.
Taking Wing
Let's fly through this product and first explore an FCP-to-Avid edited sequence transfer using the Duck's Pro Export. (Both Import and Export are designed for FCP 4.1 or later.) I did my tests in Jaguar 10.2.6. The plugins are easily installed and activated for your specific machine via Automatic Duck's automatic 24/7 web registration.
In FCP assume we've done an offline with several video layers, some composited titles and filters, image effects, freeze frames, photo or headline moves, and custom transitions. Let's also assume you have a keyframed audio design. You load the desired edited sequence into your timeline, or select it in your FCP bin, and then invoke the Automatic Duck Pro Export plug in from File>Export, and away it flies.
Automatic Duck Pro Export FCP reads all of these timeline elements differently. Opening the Avid system, you simply choose Import, set the mask for OMF files, locate your FCP Export and bring in your FCP Export OMF file.
You'll see the layers of video and audio clips-- even subclips!-- have come across seamlessly, ready for online recapture using your choice of Avid codec. That alone is spectacular; you've just wiped out the need for EDL's, batch lists, ALE translation, etc. Just Export and Duck!
To repeat, transfer from FCP to Avid requires recapturing from your sources using an Avid codec. Going the other way, the manual says you have a choice which allows you to either re-capture, or actually link to the Avid media and play it inside FCP- without rendering! I did not test this. It comes with potential limitations due to difference in media file structures, so capture using a native FCP preset is recommended-- especially if you're finishing on FCP and the Avid media is an offline format. Still, a neat trick.
My tests did not include re-capture of media, either, but an examination of equivalent clips showed me the timecode was frame-identical and of proper format.
Minor Flaps
For now, anything done in Final Cut Pro to change the look of your image: keyframed scale, position, rotation changes, color corrections, filters, etc. are all considered effects by the Duck Pro Export. Effects details can certainly be described in the exported OMF file, but for now, not in a way that Avid systems will accept. Your effects will have to be re-built in your Avid system.
Since a main application for Pro Export will be to move an FCP offline to Avid for finishing, this isn't a major calamity. Finishing editors like to bring their own judgement to color legalizing and correction, and often expect to completely redesign motion effects such as photo zooms, special transitions, posterizations as well, after reviewing the reference video. (Alright, they may not be expecting it!) What's nice is, all these elements are clearly and accurately represented as placeholder clips in the Avid timeline.
All FCP transitions-- wipes, pushes, peels-- will be translated to dissolves in the Avid; all special transitions must be rebuilt. If your transition is 10 frames in FCP, lo and behold, the representative dissolve is 10 frames in Avid. If all you use in a show is dissolves, that job is done.
Transition, effect and clip durations are observed. Constant-speed-changed FCP clips translate to Avid speed-changed clips. Variable time remapping is not translated. Freeze frames are translated.
Titles such as Boris Calligraphy-generated clips from FCP must be recreated, unless you render them out separately as Quicktimes using the appropriate Avid QuickTime codec and then import them-- a timesaving workaround. (Of course, they're no longer internally editable.) Whether you generate for import or choose to recreate from scratch using Avid title tool, the Duck is still helpful. Titles are duration effects as opposed to 'parameter' effects like color correction, and they are accurately represented in Avid as plaeholder clips, at the right timeline point and of the right duration. Placeholders in the Avid will carry whatever name you give each title clip in FCP, so name them first to reflect their contents in FCP's Logging Info pane (Command-9). In Avid you recreate the title and simply replace each placeholder with an overwrite edit.
Photoshop and PICT files and imported elements like QuickTime movies are represented int he Avid timeline as placeholders, with accurate timecode from your FCP sequence. Just reimport to Avid and replace with overwrites. MoCo moves must be rebuilt using Avid-specific tools like Resize and Pan & Zoom.
A Loud Quack
FCP audio levels and keyframed section
Translated into Avid.
Here's an ear-opener: with Pro Export FCP, audio clips will come across into Avid with identical keyframed level changes! If you attempt to export more FCP tracks than your Avid model can handle, those layers will be locked.
Currently, audio pan changes are not translated, but this is largely a non-issue since your finishing workflow will likely involve a separate sound sweetening facility which will bounce its mix right to your Avid finisher for mastering to tape. But it's nice to have a reference track which mirrors the FCP scratch balance until it's replaced-- you can rush finished picture lock out to execs, close captioning department, or sponsors for review even while the mixing engineer is in the middle of sweetening, should the schedule require it! Who knows? The Duck opens up such possibilities.
The new Duck translates FCP Nests. Read that again! Upon Avid OMF import, each is translated into an Avid Submaster effect, the nearest relative. The only limitation is an oddball caveat: you cannot establish a nest, then make a cut to shorten it, and then export it-- Duck Export won't understand such cuts in the nest shell-- it's looking at the original nest and the info inside only. Trim to taste after Avid import.
If you have sliced into your nest at one or more points, you must export your main FCP sequence, then go back and export each nest fragment, one at a time, from cut to nest cut. They each retain their location in sequence timecode, and can be edited into the main sequence once in the Avid timeline, where, again, placeholder regions have been established, to be filled by the 'mini-Nests.' But for greatest time savings, do a picture lock on all nest components and then export the solid nest.
Avid-compatible OMF files exported from FCP have been tested with Avid Symphony, Media Composer, Xpress and Xpress DV in NTSC (30i) and PAL (25i). I tested various OMF Duck Exports from FCP 4.1 to Avid XpressDVPro 4.1.1 on my own system. It delivers.
If you're still grumbling how it seems so many elements still have to be rebuilt, take that memory pill and remember how it used to be done, if at all, before the miracle mallard arrived. Only the Duck has quacked this problem, with history supporting composition transfer paths such as Avid to After Effects, After Effects to Avid, FCP to After Effects and now, finally, Avid to FCP and the reverse. One excellent FCP-to-Avid strategy is to offline cuts-only in FCP-- no matter how elaborate the track layering-- and then Pro-Export for effects and finishing together. (Online editors don't have enough to do, right?)
Saved by the Bill
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I'm the kind of guy who carefully excavates a slice of cake to leave the frosting standing for last.
On the Avid side, just export a sequence as OMF 2.0, Composition only. Here I've named and saved the Avid Export settings as a 'Duck export template.'
When it comes to importing a timeline from Avid to FCP: wow! Much different story. Automatic Duck Pro Import FCP is a powerful plug-in which reads in OMF (and soon AAF) metafile information and converts it to XML to be interpreted by FCP 4.1. The result is rich. Apple and the Final Cut Pro team have nailed it again, supporting the XML standard. When you apply the Duck Pro Import, you see it in action.
First you must recover from an accurate and spooky clone of your Avid sequence in the FCP timeline-- in seconds (for a good example, compare the timelines at top of this article). Then you'll discover not only does the Duck accurately rebuild the clip structure of the Avid sequence in FCP, in all the proper layers of video and audio, but it also translates via XML many Avid effects into their nearest literal FCP equivalents-- no rebuilding required. The Duck translates almost every Avid element except complete Group Clips.
Group Clips are those special structures created in Avid from two or more synched layers of video, specifically for Avid Multicam 'live' switching between angles. I asked Automatic Duck CEO Wes Plate how Group Clips are handled in this release.
'When we import Avid Group Clips into FCP, we detect which clip from
the Group was 'selected' and that is the clip you get in the FCP timeline.
'Alternate' clips from the group... are not translated.'
Only temporary, I suspect.
An awful lot of timeline data does come over. For instance, an Avid Superimpose effect becomes an FCP opacity value. Motion effects such as zooms, resizes, PIP, many other traditional Avid motion effects are now translated and require only tweak adjustment, if any. As in Export, freeze frames are supported.
Avid submaster- top two title clips... | ...Import as FCP Nests |
Avid Submaster effects cross over as-- you guessed it-- placeholder Nests! Often Avid editors will combine, for instance, a separate wipe-able title background band and on the track above it, the title itself, for a lower third 'identity assembly', which is then combined into a Submaster. In FCP, this assembly is a two-track nest, which precisely guides the recreation and placement of each component to the exact frame.
Avid Picture-in-Picture effect - note effect settings.
Translated into FCP-- note effect settings. (Yes, the Viewer's Motion Effects pane is scaled to look like Avid's Effect Editor, just for fun.)
Wes explains the current performance imbalance between Export and Import.
'Avid effects like PIP and Resize are not public, their representation
in OMF is encoded, making it impossible to write by third parties.
So we cannot create these kinds of effects in OMF, but we did spend
some time to figure out how to read some key Avid effects like PIP,
Superimpose and Resize. When we write a sequence into FCP via their
new XML interchange, we have no restrictions, so we can write whatever
we can support. This is why we can recreate more effects in FCP than
we can send to Avid systems.'
A Lighter Bill, But Still...
As a reality check: even in the best case with the most unsullied translation of items from one environ to another, no matter which way you go, allow extra tweak time. Beyond redidging in the new environment, rebuilding effects, keyframe animation, and titles from scratch always take time. The difference in data rates alone, between offline and online, cause significant variance in render times, and is unavoidable with or without the Duck. But most users agree, to have such tasks laid out before you with partial translations and accurate placeholders is pretty huge.
Migratory Patterns
Where did the idea come from? Where is it going? Why the strange name?
'At the end of 1998, beginning of 1999 I was cutting a
regional commercial for the Philadelphia-area Chrysler
dealers, says Wes. 'The designer on the spot was my friend
Justin Leibow, who now is the Creative Director at Fuel in Santa Monica.
'During this time Justin and I (along with other Seattle-ites we worked
with) were experimenting a great deal with ways to integrate Avid editorial
with After Effects as a compositing/design/finishing tool. I would cut pieces
both horizontally and vertically, then I would convert my edit into an
After Effects project for him to take over and finish. This conversion step
was always the annoying step, because it took so much time to rebuild.'
His early efforts to automate the process are documented at www.wesplate.com/helpful/avid_to_ae/index.html. Wes adds, 'Those who are new to AE might enjoy seeing the After Effects 3.1 screenshots.'
In the mid 90's Avid Technology pioneered and promoted the Open Media Framework as a bridge between applications such as nonlinear editors and audio tools, which was adopted by, among other toolmakers, DigiDesign, now a part of Avid, to make audio transfers to ProTools® and back much easier. Apple implements audio file OMF export natively in FCP (since version 2.0) for the same reason.
'Back in that same time period, I got quite familiar with the OMF file format
as I would frequently send my edits' audio off to mix via the format. I realized
that in the potential of OMF was the possibility of sending an Avid edit to After
Effects. But AE couldn't read OMF. Problem.'
Edwin Land used to tell his Polaroid scientists, 'The solution is in the room.' Wes turned to a close resource.
'Turns out my Dad, Harry, is a wicked smart programmer. I approached
him with the idea that I was not alone in needing the ability to effectively
integrate Avid and AE. After a VERY long time sitting on the idea, we
started toying with it seriously in the summer of 2000, and by October
2000 it was full-time, full-on, development-central.By spring of 2001 we
had Automatic Composition Import 1.0 out the door.'
So why did the Duckmaster name the product 'Automatic Duck?' During early development, Wes came across the best-known work of French engineer/inventor Jaques de Vaucanson, who in 1739, during an 'automata' craze, invented a mechanical duck which was a crowd-pleaser. It was reportedly as amazing as Wes' products. It not only quacked, swam, flapped its wings-- each made of over 400 parts-- it also 'ate' and 'excreted'-- a useful analogy.
'The Final Cut community was wise to the power we were
unleashing, and it wasn't long before we were getting requests
for a FCP-to-AE translator. In February of 2002 it was out.'
As Final Cut Pro began showing up as an affordable offline tool at post houses and TV stations, more and more users clamored for efficient transfer protocols. While accurate to the frame, using an edit decision list (EDL) limits export to 1 video track at a time, plus one key or title layer. For those cutting multilayer compositions in FCP, it was an unwieldy workaround, and Wes knew it.
'The next project was to create 'Avid® Compatible' OMF® files
from FCP, to help break the EDL barrier. FCP offline, Avid online,
done more effectively than EDLs could do. Now we can also import
OMF into Final Cut Pro; you can imagine that this has been widely-requested.'
Automatic Duck CEO Wes Plate (L) demos at many popular digital video events.
Automatic Duck today continues to fly as a closely held business.
'Harry is still the lead engineer. Over the last year we've benefited
from the contract expertise of four others, two of which are still with us.
My wife Jessie handles all the order processing now,
so yes, we've grown. The work doesn't get any easier!'
But the products keep getting more powerful, more capable, and could gradually erase the separate worlds of Avid and FCP, to the benefit of both camps.
Moving forward two and a half centuries from Vaucanson's mechanical miracle to Wes Plate's Automatic Duck, producers, editors and post supervisors now have meaningful NLE workflow choices with less hassle. To summarize:
- FCP to any format Avid finish (AD's Pro Export FCP)
- Avid to any format Avid finish (direct)
- Avid to any format FCP finish (AD's Pro Import FCP)
- FCP to any format FCP finish (direct).
'What started as a specific fix to a specific need has grown,' says Wes,
'because it turns out that in the real world users need to be flexible. The
need to start a job in FCP and finish it in an Avid. Or pre-vis in Xpress DV
and composite in After Effects. The number of workflow combinations is growing
every day.'
There's nothing daffy about choice.
Get quacking!
copyright©Loren S Miller 2003
This article is dedicated to the memory of Ralph Fairweather.
When not perseverating over nest arrangements in his timelines, prizewinning editor Loren S. Miller evangelizes the keyboard with his KeyGuide™ products at the LAFCPUG Store and at www.neotrondesign.com and also reports on various Macintosh media-creation events and products. Special thanks to Dave Allen, Mark Steele and Harlan Reiniger of WGBH-TV, PBS Boston, for assistance in preparing this article.
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